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Politics 2007
Britain, land of PC perfection and government led
dysfunction
British Government fails its own armed forces
British Labour Government's orgy of self generated legislation
The quality of life under this British government continues its
downwards spiral
An insight into the how when and why of that modern
phenomenon, the (il)liberal all pervading self hating oikophobe
The cosy camaraderie which exists within the club in
which the British political gentry avoid embarrassing fellow members
Campaign to get the British Government to honour their obligations under
the Miltary Covenant
British Government accused over lack of funds for forces identification
equipment
Growing belief in
independence for Wales
British political parties and Scottish moves for independence
British government warns Scotland it can take powers back
English not to be asked over Scottish independence
Labour's treatment of its armed forces
Labour's
disunited kingdoms
Sensational
poll results for SNP
Gary Bushell mayoral candidate announcement
Almost entire membership of UKIP defect to EDP
Scots allowed to choose the Saltire over the Union Flag
Flying the
Cross of St George
Scots continue to benefit in comparison with England
Real
legacy of Blair
Anti-English
Westminster
Browns
republican dream is a betrayal
Browns largesse to Scotland
Brown and his declared policy to hand power back to the people
Brown Labour and national security
Gary Bushell candidate for Lord Mayor of London
Scots get £1,500 more to stay in the UKs (United Kingdoms)
Families pay £350 a year to fund Scots perks
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Britain, land of PC perfection and Government led
dysfunction |
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'The
loss of two computer discs containing personal
information about 25 million people is not something to
be pinned on half-witted junior employees...'
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'It
is symbolic of an ingrained dysfunction-ality on the
part of this Government.' |
Daily Mail article 21 November
2007
Stephen Glover Daily
Mail
A ruling class whose staggering incompetence is matched only
by its arrogance
00:19am 21st November 2007
Alistair Darling is quickly
turning out to be the most hapless - some would say the most
maladroit - Chancellor for many years.
On Monday he intimated to the Commons that billions of pounds of
government loans to Northern Rock might never be repaid.
Yesterday he stood in the same place to reveal
one of the biggest acts of administrative incompetence committed
by the British State in modern times.
The loss of two computer discs containing
personal information about 25 million people is not something to
be pinned on half-witted junior employees at HM Revenue and
Customs, as Mr Darling shamelessly tried to do yesterday.
It is symbolic of an
ingrained dysfunctionality on the part of this Government.
There exists between citizen and Government a precious contract.
We hand over personal details in the absolute assurance that
these will remain confidential. It is the same with our banks or
our employers.
Think how we would feel if they mislaid
private information of this sort that might enable others not
only to filch money from our bank accounts, but also to commit
identity fraud.
It is true there have been cases of banks
leaving sacks of old bank statements and such like, containing
private information, to be collected as rubbish, but these pale
into insignificance compared with the loss of two discs
containing personal details about nearly half the population of
this country.
This
is a monumental breach of trust; evidence of incompetence on an
epic scale.+
Full Daily Mail article
BBC News
Six more data discs 'are
missing'
BBC article
Mirror 26 November 2007
A dad got a letter of
apology from civil servants over the lost data fiasco - filled
with private information about another parent.
Mirror article
Telegraph
Alistair Darling is embroiled in a cover-up row
after Whitehall e-mails revealed that a senior civil servant was
involved in the blunders that led to the
lost data crisis
Full Telegraph article
Woman kept benefit discs 'for more than a year'
David Smith
Sunday December 2, 2007
Full Guardian story
BBC 02 December 2007
Timeline:
Child benefits records loss
Full BBC article
BBC -
Benefit data lapse 'disturbing'
Full BBC article
BBC 11 December 2007
Thousands of driver details
lost
The
Driver and Vehicle Agency in Northern Ireland has lost the
personal details of 6,000 people.
Full BBC News item
Grantham Journal
Health staff data accidentally sent to firms
A union has claimed the
personal details of hundreds of its members' were accidentally
sent to four companies by their Merseyside health authority
employers.
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'This
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incompetence on an epic scale.' |
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'They show that
those who govern us operate not on behalf of the
governed, but for the benefit of the
administrative class. How else could two discs
containing the personal information of 25
million people go missing?' |
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British
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Early Day Motion for an English Parliament supported
by only 20 British Government MPs
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October 2007) |
'That
those polls that have questioned the English report a
clear majority in favour of an English parliament '
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...and further notes that
it is this issue, and not Scottish independence or even
House of Lords reform, that is the issue that voters now
put at the top of their priorities for constitutional
reform. EDM 670 |
EDM 670 British Government
EDM 670 ENGLISH PARLIAMENT 17.01.2007
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Hoyle, Lindsay
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That this House notes
that those polls that have questioned the English report a clear
majority in favour of an English parliament; and further notes
that it is this issue, and not Scottish independence or even
House of Lords reform, that is the issue that voters now put at
the top of their priorities for constitutional reform.+
Early Day Motion 670 Frank Field
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British Government 'fails' its own armed forces |
High
ranking military officers back campaign to restore the
contract with the armed forces 'broken' by this British
Government
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Military Covenant which has
been broken by poor housing, inappropriate care of the
wounded and injury compensation levels he said were
"almost insulting" |
Independent
article
Jackson backs 'IoS' campaign and sets his sights on Brown
The former army chief says PM shoulders blame over Iraq
By Cole Moreton and Marie Woolf
Published: 09 September 2007
Gordon Brown is responsible for running down
the British Army so that it is not ready for the new "generation
of conflict" that soldiers now face, says the army's former boss
General Sir Michael Jackson.
The man who retired as Chief of the General
Staff just a year ago attacks Mr Brown in his new autobiography,
Soldier, to be published tomorrow, saying the promises made by
Tony Blair when in power were not kept because of the attitude
of his Chancellor. "The Prime Minister was quoted as saying that
the Army could have anything it needed – to which the cynical
response was, 'Tell that to your next-door neighbour'."
In an exclusive interview Gen Jackson told the
IoS: "That quote means it's all very well for the [then] Prime
Minister to make such a generous statement but it has to be
backed up with money. And we all know where the money comes
from."
The general said he backed "wholeheartedly"
the IoS campaign to repair the Military Covenant – the contract
between soldiers and society – which has been broken by poor
housing, inappropriate care of the wounded and injury
compensation levels he said were "almost insulting".
Nearly 40 high-ranking military officials are
now behind the campaign, including the former chief of defence
staff Lord Bramall and the former commander of UN troops in
Bosnia Colonel Bob Stewart. Serving and former soldiers and
their families have flooded the newspaper with messages of
support. "Military operations exact costs in blood and
treasure," said Gen Jackson. "Our soldiers pay the cost in
blood; the nation must therefore pay the cost in treasure."
The 63-year-old said the present Ministry of
Defence budget would not give soldiers the resources needed to
fight the long campaign expected in Afghanistan. The only way to
afford the war under current spending plans, he says, would be
to axe "big-ticket items" such as aircraft carriers to free up
funds for ground troops.
He is calling for an immediate defence budget
increase of 10 per cent – about £3.4b a year – and a review of
MoD spending.
But asked if he expected that to happen under
the present PM, Gen Jackson said: "I don't know whether the
change from Chancellor to Prime Minister will give Gordon Brown
a different perspective on the armed forces."
Yesterday the Ministry of Defence announced
that the 250 members of the King's Royal Hussars Battle Group
would leave Iraq early this month, and another 250 troops by
Christmas, to reduce numbers to around 5,000 after the
withdrawal from Basra Palace.
The current head of the Army, General Sir
Richard Dannatt, told top soldiers last month that they must
prepare for a "generation of conflict" in Afghanistan. Yet the
support for our campaign at the highest level of military life
expresses anger at Whitehall thrift undermining troops.
Now the IoS has learned that the MoD told
insurance companies bidding to provide life cover for soldiers
serving in Iraq and Afghanistan to "dissuade" personnel from
increasing the amount of insurance they took out before they
went to war and decreasing it when they came home.+
Full Independent article
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MoD told insurance
companies bidding to provide life cover for
soldiers serving in Iraq and Afghanistan to
"dissuade" personnel from increasing the amount
of insurance they took out before they went to
war and decreasing it when they came home. |
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Committee of MPs
expected to say families of personnel in Iraq
and Afghanistan live in sub-standard
accommodation while their loved ones risk their
lives |
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08 September 2007: From Spectator 16 November 2006
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British Labour Government's orgy of self generated
legislation |
Amendments
to existing Acts, and other “statutory instruments” –
laws which ministers can enact without primary
legislation
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New laws are now routinely imposed upon
businesses without any parliamentary debate |
Spectator article
Welcome to Red Tape Britain
Ross Clark
Welcome to Red Tape Britain, a land that's
drowning in incredible and ridiculous rules. In the past 12
months, there have been 3,621 regulations introduced, running to
a total of 98,600 pages: that’s 70 times longer than War and
Peace.
There are now 279 different tax forms for
businesses alone, asking a total of 6,614 questions. The notes
explaining the Treasury’s “simplified” pensions regime ran to
1,369 pages. The Sheep and Goats (Records, Identification and
Movement) (Wales) Order 2006, regulating the size, shape and
colour of eartags on Welsh sheep and goats, ran to 45 pages.
The law allows you to kill a bullfinch or give
one away, but not to sell or barter it. A woman from Kilbride
was given an anti-social behaviour order forbidding her from
answering the door in her underwear. The list goes on and on,
and no less remarkable is just how little of this mountain of
regulation is ever debated in parliament.
Instead, thanks in part to our membership of
the European Union, the changes increasingly come in the form of
regulations, amendments to existing Acts, and other “statutory
instruments” – laws which ministers can enact without primary
legislation.
In 1988, the Conservative government – itself
far more prone to acts of petty regulation than is commonly
remembered – passed 55 public Acts of parliament. In addition,
it introduced 2,311 laws by statutory instrument. Last year, the
UK government introduced 23 public bills before parliament, and
put forward 3,601 statutory instruments.
Typical were the Working Time Regulations.
There was a time when a measure which inflicted legal limits on
the working day of employees would have come about only by Act
of parliament. Not any more. The rules limiting most workers to
a 48-hour week were introduced by diktat in 1998. Opposition was
subdued by the granting of exceptions, which the government then
proceeded to chip away with amendments.
The original regulations contained an
exemption for workers whose working time was “partly unmeasured
or determined by the worker himself” – in other words for the
likes of senior managers for whom the distinction between time
on-duty and time off-duty can be blurred.
Needless to say, a piece of common sense has
now been abolished. Senior managers who want to work more than
48 hours a week must now – in theory at least – sign an
agreement with themselves saying that they wish to put in the
extra time; they must also keep a log of how many hours they
actually work.
But how do you do this? Is that half-hour you
spent in the bath, working through some complex problem, time
spent on-duty or off-duty?
The distinction between work and leisure is
certainly one which ministers find hard to make. John Prescott
memorably told us that he was working as he was photographed at
Dorneywood with a croquet mallet in his hand. Maybe he was busy
discussing business between hoops; but was he taking care to
clock off every time he bent down to take a shot?
Of course, to fill in a log of working hours
properly would then add hours to the working week, defeating the
very ill – overwork – which it sought to cure.
Equality is another area where new laws are
now routinely imposed upon businesses without any parliamentary
debate. Most recently this occurred with the Employment Equality
(Age) Regulations 2006, which came into force on 1 October.
Among other things, these regulations make it
an offence to advertise a job as being especially suitable for a
particular age group. It raises the prospect of companies being
taken to a tribunal should office banter draw attention to an
employee’s age.
One insurance broker has already been moved to
ban birthday cards which contain such expressions as “over the
hill”, on the basis that it could lead to a claim against them.
But worse still, the new regulations make it impossible for
firms to keep within the law.
The Department for Trade and Industry has
warned employers that they should not ask for an employee’s age
on a job application form. But at the same time employers need
to know the date of birth of employees – both for tax purposes
and for vetting applicants under the child protection laws.+
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To fill in a log of working hours
properly would then add hours to the working
week, defeating the very ill – overwork – which
it sought to cure. |
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The list goes on and
on, and no less remarkable is just how little of
this mountain of regulation is ever debated in
parliament." |
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05 September 2007 Daily Mail
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The quality of life under this British Government
continues its downwards spiral |
Out
of the industrial countries, Britain has the third
highest number of asylum applications at 30,800, beaten
only by France and the U.S.
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It shows that Britain is one
of the world leaders in crime figures. |
Daily Mail article
Britain slips to 17th place in the quality of life league
table
By
COLIN FERNANDEZ -
More by this author »
Last
updated at 11:42am on 5th September 2007
Britain is slipping down the
world rankings for quality of life, a survey suggests.
The UK is now only 17th in the international
league table, a fall of two places from last year.
Norway remains the best place to live,
according to the authoritative research, followed by Iceland and
Australia.
Britain shares 17th position with Italy, one
place behind France.
The research is based on the United Nations'
Human Development Index, which looks at adult literacy, life
expectancy and income levels.
It is intended to give a broader picture of a
country than just the size of its economy. Britain has the fifth
biggest economy in the world, after the United States, Japan,
Germany and China.
However, per head of population, the British
are only the 16th richest, with £18,043 per head, compared to
sixthplaced Ireland at £24,412 and superwealthy Luxembourg at
£38,567 per head.
The research is revealed in the Economist's
Pocket World in Figures, an annual look into 200 categories
covering 183 countries.
It shows that Britain is one of the world
leaders in crime figures. It has 9,767 recorded crimes per
100,000 population, behind New Zealand's 11,152 and Finland's
10,243. South Africa, for all its lawless reputation, is in
eighth place with 7,967 crimes recorded.
One area where the UK beats everyone else is
in spending on music CDs and downloads, at £18 per person -
although many will feel this is because CDs cost more here than
elsewhere.
Britain is also one of the world leaders in house prices, up 196
per cent in the decade to 2006 to become the third highest on
the planet. Only South Africa, up 351 per cent, and Ireland, up
253 per cent, have outstripped us.+
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terms of life expectancy, by 2010 the average Briton
will live to 79.4 years, only the 22nd highest in the
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04 September 2007 American Thinker
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An insight into the how when and why of that modern
phenomenon, the (il)liberal all pervading self hating
oikophobe |
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roots are a self-hating neurosis that, in different
forms has afflicted the European intelligentsia since
the time of Rousseau.' |
'(it) was motivated not by
something noble but by something weak and creepy.' |
American Thinker article
The Psychology of the Self-Hating Liberal
By
Graham Cunningham
The good news is that, after
a whole century of heading in the wrong direction, a moral and
intellectual challenge to the bleeding-heart version of
liberalism is finally welling up in the West. This is in no
small part thanks to the liberating force of the Internet that
has made freedom of expression possible again after decades of
suffocating mass media orthodoxy.
There is however a tendency
to focus only on the effects of the West's philosophical
malaise. The rampant spread of our parasitic victim-culture and
our impotence in the face of Islamic terrorism - these are both
symptoms. The root cause lies in the psychology of sublimated
self-hate that has come to be the prevalent psychic condition
middle class liberals and especially those in media and academic
circles. The truth is that virtually the entire ‘social justice'
project of the last century - driven by middle class liberals on
behalf of ‘the oppressed' - was motivated not by something noble
but by something weak and creepy.
Its roots are a self-hating
neurosis that, in different forms has afflicted the European
intelligentsia since the time of Rousseau. I first became aware
of the strange mind games of the self-hating middle class
liberal at university in the 1970's. It is a mindset that did
then (and still does) dominate academic life. Students and their
tutors alike - mostly the beneficiaries of upward striving
family backgrounds - were consumed with a phony and entirely
self- absorbed infatuation with something they called ‘the
working class struggle'.
Through its disproportionate
hold on academic and media culture this mindset has now become
mainstream. As it has spread through our culture it has been
diluted and sublimated, Paradoxically this has made it even more
poisonous by making it more difficult to apprehend. It has
become a gossamer web of vaguely held attitudes. Here are some
of them:
Being middle class is
something to be slightly ashamed of. Being working class on the
other hand - or better still affecting to be working class -
makes you seem more heroic......As long as you are ‘left wing'
you are not only a nicer person but you are also ‘radical' and
therefore not boring. If on the other hand you are ‘right wing',
well that means you are ‘reactionary' and mean......Business
enterprise is essentially disreputable whereas getting a living
off the public purse or in the arts and media is highly
civilised. Being an engineer or a scientist is OK too, up to a
point - for boring people anyway.....And of course all the
problems of people in the rest of the world are the fault, not
of those people themselves but of the prosperous West. More
specifically, the blame lies with ‘the capitalist system'; not
you personally of course. You show how much you care by going to
Live Aid concerts and that makes you feel much better about
yourself.
In the
obsessive struggle to subvert the perceived social hierarchy, a
new politically correct hierarchy is rammed down your throat. At
its apex would be someone like a Red Indian lesbian; at the
bottom of the heap would be a middle class, Southern English
male. In the latter half of the last century this mentality
spread through all professions and institutions and so has
become self-perpetuating. By the time the influence filters down
to the population at large it is so diluted as to be just a
vague lack of confidence in Western civilisation and a
linguistic fog of moral relativism which disorientates people
and makes them doubt their own common sense instincts about
right and wrong.+
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its apex would be someone like a Red Indian lesbian; at
the bottom of the heap would be a middle class, Southern
English male.' |
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02 September 2007 Daily Mail
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The cosy camaraderie which exists within the exclusive
club in which the British political gentry avoid
embarrassing fellow members |
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new Political Class has emerged over the past three
decades to become the dominant force in British public
life...' |
'Increasingly pursues its
own sectional interests oblivious to the public good.' |
Daily Mail article
PETER OBORNE: The rise of the sleaze-ocrats
in Britain's ruling class
Last
updated at 22:53pm on 2nd September 2007
Five years ago I spent
several weeks in Zimbabwe reporting on the way that President
Mugabe was brutalising his people, in part thanks to the inertia
and complicity of the Tony Blair government.
After I returned, Sir Patrick Cormack, a
Conservative Party backbencher, invited me to his room. He
wanted to ask what questions he should put to a government
minister who would soon be giving evidence on Zimbabwe to the
Foreign Affairs Committee of the House of Commons, of which he
was a member.
So I told Cormack about a strange event that
had occurred the previous month. President Mugabe had been
invited to Paris by President Chirac for a summit meeting. This
example of European approval of a barbarous dictator caused
uproar.
When Downing Street was asked about the
episode, it gave the impression to reporters that it had neither
been consulted nor informed, while ministers spoke out angrily
against the invitation.
In fact I was able to show Cormack evidence
that the British government had known all along about the
invitation, raised not the slightest objection, that its
protestations of ignorance were false, and that the angry
pronouncements by ministers were no better than a cynical
device. I suggested to Cormack that he should expose this
wretched business at the Foreign Affairs Committee, and offered
to draft him a list of questions.
Sir Patrick gazed around his large and
beautifully appointed Commons office. He looked appalled. "Oh, I
could never do that," he stated. "It might embarrass the
Government."
Since then I have often noted Sir Patrick nod
with vigorous approval from the Conservative side as Tony Blair
spoke from the dispatch box. I have seen him cross the floor of
the House to offer sympathy and support to a government minister
in trouble.
I have also been reliably told that he wrote a
letter of rebuke to a younger Tory MP in a neighbouring
constituency who attacked the Government. "That is not the sort
of thing we do in Staffordshire," declared Cormack.
Cormack has his fans who believe that he
represents a 'civilised' kind of politics. I cannot agree.
Voters put their MPs into Parliament to represent their
interests and articulate their concerns, and sometimes anger,
not to form part of a comfortable club, or to collude with
opposition parties.
Sir Patrick is one of hundreds of Members of
Parliament who now belong to a Political Class that has become
entrenched at the centre of British politics, government and
society.+
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'This estrangement is very perilous for British
democracy. It is the reason for the collapse in trust in
the British political process, and the sharply falling
turn-out at general elections.' |
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02 September
2007 Independent on Sunday
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Campaign
to get the British Government to honour their
oblig-ations under the Military Covenant |
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Military Covenant is an unbreakable bond of identity,
loyalty and responsibility' |
"The wounded are getting lost in the
system," -
Lord Bramall |
Independent on Sunday
article
IoS campaign: Honour our troops
Cameron backs 'IoS' call to honour the
Military Covenant
By Andrew Johnson
Published: 02 September 2007
A major campaign backed by servicemen and
women, their families, senior military figures, politicians from
all parties and armed forces associations is launched today to
press the Government to honour its obligations to the British
personnel risking their lives in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The Independent on Sunday
campaign calls on the nation to honour the Military Covenant,
which stipulates that in return for putting their lives on the
line, British troops, airmen and sailors should be given
adequate equipment to do their jobs, the best treatment possible
if wounded and the assurance that their families will be looked
after if they die in their country's service.
David Cameron is among politicians backing the
campaign. He told the IoS: "The Military Covenant is an
unbreakable bond of identity, loyalty and responsibility. I
don't want the nation to let the Army down."
The Government faces unprecedented criticism
of its handling of the war and treatment of troops. The death
toll stands at 168 British troops in Iraq, and 74 in
Afghanistan. New figures obtained by the IoS show the total
number of casualties airlifted out of both countries now stands
at 1,741, with field hospital admissions at 2,942.
Several families have instructed lawyers to
mount a class action over the continued use of "soft target"
Snatch Land Rovers, which are considered vulnerable to roadside
bombs because they have no armour. About 20 troops have died in
this way. Tomorrow, they will demand a meeting with Des Browne,
Defence Secretary. +
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is utterly unacceptable that the men and women we ask to
carry out such difficult and dangerous tasks do not have
the kind of equipment and level of care which they
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August 200 Telegraph
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British government accused
over lack of funding for forces identification equipment |
Cuts in
defence spending demanded by the treasury had left the Army
unable to invest in equipment that could have saved the soldiers
lives.
Telegraph article
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Critics said
that the men, who were hit by a 500lb bomb in Helmand, should
have been pro-tected by high-tech systems to identify them to
friendly forces. |
Gordon Brown attacked over Forces funding
By Gethin
Chamberlain, Sunday Telegraph
Last Updated:
1:42am BST 26/08/2007
Gordon Brown has come under fire on
both sides of the Atlantic for starving the Armed Forces of funding,
leaving them struggling to fight on two fronts, in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The Prime Minister was attacked by
Liam Fox, the shadow defence secretary, and a White House adviser over
ten years of "underspending".
He was accused of refusing to give British troops the money to defend
themselves as they combat insurgents in southern Iraq and the Taliban in
Afghanistan.
The claims came as the three soldiers killed by a US jet in a "friendly
fire" incident in Afghanistan were named as Privates Aaron McClure,
Robert Foster and John Thrumble.
Critics said that the men, who were hit
by a 500lb bomb in Helmand, should have been protected by high-tech
systems to identify them to friendly forces.
Dr Fox said that cuts in defence
spending demanded by the Treasury had left the Army unable to invest in
equipment that could have saved the soldiers' lives.
"Gordon Brown showed no interest in the
Armed Forces in his time as chancellor," said Dr Fox. "We know what he
thinks about casinos and cannabis but we have heard scarcely a word from
him on Afghanistan. When it comes to people putting their lives on the
line there is a deafening silence.+
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24 August 2007 Western
Mail
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Growing belief in
independence for Wales |
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long there won't be a Union left for us to be part of says
Adam Price MP |
“The era of the
Disunited Kingdom is coming to an end”. |
Western Mail article
Plaid starts to utter dreaded ‘I’ word, as
MP predicts Welsh independence by 2020
Aug 24 2007
by Tomos Livingstone, Western Mail
PLAID Cymru put the “I” word back on
the agenda yesterday, with one of its MPs suggesting Wales was likely to
be independent in little more than a decade.
Whereas once Plaid played down its
own constitutional aim of a separate Welsh state for fear of alienating
voters, many of its strategists believe developments in Scotland and
England mean that outcome is closer than ever.
Carmarthen East and Dinefwr MP Adam
Price said Wales would probably be independent by 2020, and needed to
get used to the idea.
In his weekly column for current
affairs magazine Golwg, Mr Price said, “Before long, there won’t be a
Union left for us to be part of. It’s one thing to leave your state, I
can hear [Labour MP] Don Touhig lamenting, it’s another to see your
state leaving you.
“But leave us it’s likely to: by the
year 2020 the likelihood is that Wales will be independent, either by
our own choices or thanks to choices made by our fellow Britons.”
Plaid believe their case has been
given a boost by the SNP’s performance in May’s Scottish parliamentary
elections, with party leader Alex Salmond now leading a nationalist
executive, albeit without a majority.
Mr Salmond’s White Paper on Scottish
independence has given a new impetus to the debate, although the SNP’s
lack of a majority in Holyrood means a referendum on the issue isn’t
likely to be held until at least 2011.+
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17 August 2007 Telegraph
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British political parties and
Scottish moves for independence |
| The Conservatives align
themselves with Labour and LibDems against Alex Salmond's
proposal for a referendum on Scottish constitutional issues,
including the issue of Scottish independence from the UKs,
(United Kingdoms) |
For parties to argue on the one hand for
"localism", more "direct democracy" and an end to "top-down"
government, such a stance is risible. |
Telegraph article
Why should only the Scots have a vote?
By Iain Dale
Last Updated:
12:01am BST 17/08/2007
It's not often that Scottish Conservatives get the
opportunity to make a difference, but on Tuesday it happened - and they
flunked it.
For a party polling under 10 per cent of the vote, it
was a serious misjudgment to ally themselves with Labour and the Lib
Dems and to argue vociferously against the SNP proposal for a referendum
on the Scottish constitutional settlement. First Minister Alex Salmond
must have thought Christmas had come early.
The White Paper published by the SNP-led coalition
outlined three options for the future of Scotland: stick with the
current devolved settlement, enhance devolution by extending the powers
of the Scottish Parliament in specific areas or take the massive jump to
full independence.
Salmond wants the Scottish people to decide their own
future, while the three other parties are determined not to give them
the option. For parties to argue on the one hand for "localism", more
"direct democracy" and an end to "top-down" government, such a stance is
risible.
For the Conservatives, in particular, it is a
difficult stance to justify. On the face of it, you could hardly expect
a Unionist party to do anything other than oppose a referendum on
independence, but that would be to take the easy way out. There is
little doubt that, if such a referendum were held, the SNP would lose by
a substantial margin. It seems odd, therefore, that the Unionist parties
have decided to turn their faces against such a political opportunity.
For the Conservatives, it is surely difficult to argue
that the British people should decide on whether we sign up to a
European constitution, and then say that the Scots should be denied a
referendum on their own long-term constitutional future. David Cameron
is right to argue for consistency of policy and consistency of argument.
Where's the consistency here?
If one
really believes in the future of the Union, the best way to protect it
is to take part in a debate that ends with a referendum that is binding
for a considerable time. The Conservatives argue that, even if such a
referendum were won by the Unionists, rather than putting Alex Salmond
back in his box, it would give him added impetus. But by not
acceding to a referendum, they are giving him impetus anyway.+
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